Ultimate plan features brainstorming

Improvements for reverse image search:

• Get potentially better/more accurate result by OCRing text in the image (for reference, see how Google search does this)
  • Examples of two current problems it might help me solve:
    • I have an image of a product in language X, but all hits are for the product with language Y.
    • I search for a collectible card, but because many are somewhat visually similar (the general structure, maybe color etc) I get bet results for all kinds of cards, but not just the ones I'm looking for (almost exclusively other cards actually)
• Allow translation of OCRed text in image (again, e.g. Google can do this to potentially grant better search results)
  • My current problems it might help solve:
    • I have an image of a product in language X, but I want to find it in language Y
• Resize image area search field (sometimes selecting specific parts of an image might grant better result)
  • Example of a current problems it might help me solve:
    • I have an image with multiple objects in it, and I want results with just one of the objects. Editing the image locally is possible, but a bit more tedious and iterating/refining search takes longer if I need to re-upload an image over and over.
• Ignore areas of an image when doing reverse image search (to for example avoid getting hits on some specific objects in an image.) I don't know of any other service offering this, but I imagine having a paintbrush that I can use to paint "ignore area" to allow it to match anything (like . in regex). Potentially with an option to allow an AI to "fill in the blank" of the image before searching.
  • Example of a current problems it might help me solve:
    • I have an image with a watermark from a store over it, so I get hits of products from the same store because the image recognition "gets stuck" on the watermark rather than the object behind it.

Maybe some or all of these fit better in the non-Ultimate plan, if so I'm open to creating separate posts for these (unless they already exist)

The Ultimate tier is ideal for people who would otherwise have a $20 ChatGPT+ or Anthropic subscription. With Kagi being $25 for not just ChatGPT 4 but also Claude 3, Gemini, and premium search, it is a no-brainer deal. Plus, being privacy-aware, it always felt awkward using ChatGPT and knowing every interaction is logged, associated with me, and potentially used to train the model. Kagi offers privacy-friendly and more curated access to these language models.

That being said, it would make sense for Kagi to further expand on these benefits:

• Better UI for Chat (ability to save chats & continue them at another time + ability to edit prompts and then regenerate)
• Focus on curated and privacy-protected access to these models (as a single user, I might not be able to identify and respond to user-hostile changes from AI companies. However, Kagi has the capacity to "protect" the user from such changes and stay ahead of them)
• Integrate a model such as Whisper, which allows speech transcription even from obscure dialects
• Potentially add a diffusion model, as it is the only thing missing compared to OpenAI's offerings (but it might be a distraction for Kagi)

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The ultimate plan doesn't offer many benefits compared to the professional plan

For those who don't need or understand the value of having access to the most powerful LLMs, the professional plan is great. However, it doesn't seem feasable for Kagi to offer such cost intensive features for mere 10$.

As for new features for ultimate plan i would like to be able to upload larger files for analysis. It currently is set to 16mb which is great for documents. But for audio and video it is not really realistic. I can always compress it but having an increased upload limit would be nice. Maybe 50 to 100 mb

CrunchyFritos I see your point but that could be said about anything. For example "I think Kagi should sell custom made candy because if I'm looking for a specific taste of candy it might be easier if they just made it custom for me." I realize it might sound like I'm mocking your use-case but that's not my intention, I just mean to show that "creating what I want" can be applied to most things, and is different from "finding what I want."

Of course, they're not necessarily limited to only being a search engine (they already aren't) but personally I'd rather see them focus innovation and make a great search rather than integrating with more (already existing) AI services. If it's an easy and cheap addition though, then just go for it! (but I suspect it's not)

Storing previous chat result will be really helpful.

Also it will be a miracle to see LLM embed online picture for reference in "research". It will make it much more enjoyable when LLM explain some concepts that must include a graph (typically academic stuff). I haven't seen any AI-integrated search engine does a great job on this. If Kagi can implement such feature through some refined vision LLM, it would definitely be a killer feature that attracts more user to use it as a academic study tool.

For research mode, maybe something like scholarai?

The best "features" (for me) would be:

• faster search results (the average 1.6s is waaay too slow)
• search API access.

ak42 I recommend opening a new bug report to document your average search results. We definitely do not see that in our metrics so we'd like to find out what causes it.

perplexity includes image results interspersed with the response to each query. I'd love to see Kagi integrate that functionality.

I'm far from reaching it, but maybe a higher limit for the user ranking list?

Kagibeh I would always prefer a VPN service outside the Five, Nine, or Fourteen Eyes agreements.
But something like Startpage's anonymous view would be great. I have used that from time to time.

I desperately hope kagi adds a vision llm in chat mode.

oxlvlnle We already have vision LLM, but in order to upload a file you need to switch to research mode.