Language vs Region

Vlad

@z64 I believe we have a check for browser language for a few countries including Belgium?

z64

Hi Natha , sorry for the delay - can you still reproduce any issues?

Two questions;

Can you verify what your search region setting is? You mention you're searching "from Belgium", but it would be good to precisely verify what your search region is set to.
If you can, can you verify your browser's language is set correctly? In particular, if you could tell me what your browser's Accept-Language header is being sent, that would be most helpful. If you need instructions on how to do this, let me know (& which browser you use). It should be set to something including fr-BE to work as expected.

Vlad

Natha See above, plus can you give a few example queries?

matthieusieben

I have the same issue. I selected Belgium as Country/Region in Kagi's preferences (Interface is set to English). My browser's Accept-language is fr-BE,fr-FR;q=0.9,fr;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.7,en;q=0.6, yet I still only get results in nl-BE.

This is a deal breaker for me using Kagi.

matthieusieben

Note that changing Kagi's interface language to French instead of English makes no difference.

matthieusieben

Also note that this should not be based on the browser's accept-language header but Kagi should allow to select a full locale in the Country/Region selector, instead of "Belgium" only.

Google's search preference is better in that regard: It allows you to select a region (which can be dynamic, which is much better, e.g. when you are abroad and looking for restaurants) as well as a defining a preferred language for multi-lang websites. This value, if not made configurable should use Accept-language but it appears is doesn't with Kagi.

Bluewall

Hello,

I live in Switzerland where we have three main languages : German, French and Italian.

I live in the French part of Switzerland and even though we were supposed to learn a bit of German in school, I (and many others) are really bad.

I have my UI set in French and my country to Switzerland so I often get results in French and German as well.

All those results in German are basically useless to me but I still like having Swiss websites being prioritized.

For me it would be like this

UI Language : French
Country : Switzerland
Search results : French (language)

Or maybe having the possibility under country to select "Switzerland (French)" or "Switzerland (German)".

I know it's kind of an edge case, we're a small country, but still, it would be excellent !

Thank you SO MUCH for Kagi, I love the product.

Peter

I would like a setting to set the language the results are in--a result language selection filter. Then you can have the region set to International but still be able to sometimes just display results from a different language.

Gimig

Hi, just wanted to say that I have the same problem as the other Belgians here. If I type « apple » for example, I would like Kagi to know that I would prefer to see the FR version of the apple website in Belgium, not the NL one.

Vlad

As a first step towards better regional experience we will be introducing these selectable regions soon:

Belgium (fr)
Belgium (nl)
Canada (en)
Canada (fr)
Spain (ca)
Spain (es)
Switzerland (de)
Switzerland (fr)

We understand that this does not solve all problems, but it does solve a lot and is fairly straightforward for us to do. Thanks for your patience.

9rqnq

Vlad Thanks for implementing this fix for the problem! But I can't find these two new regions for Ukraine. Am I missing something?

And also a question: What is the plan for this language vs. region issue? Is adding Region(Language) regions a temporary fix, and are you planning in the future to create a much more flexible and user-customizable system, or will you simply add new regions as needed? And how you will decide if you add this new language region?

For example, for Switzerland, you implemented only two languages, but they have two more official languages (Italian and Romansh). Spain also has many regional languages.
The other side is, for example, people who want English results in Estonia (English is not an official language in Estonia). Will you add English for Estonia as a separate region?

Vlad

Hi all

As you've probably seen we've launched support for multiple additional regions. Since this will solve most of issues we will be marking this as done.

I understand that this does not solve 100% of use-cases expressed in this thread I encourage you to start a new feature suggestion that will apply to issues you have getting results in proper language.

Thanks all for understanding.

ignami

Vlad Thanks for this! Are there associated regional bangs? I can't find !ch_fr or !chfr for instance.

z64

ignami We'll get those set up!

In the meantime you can set up a custom bang with ?r=ch_fr&q=%s etc.

Vlad

9rqnq Ukraine was not rolled out due to technical limitations, sorry about that, I edited my post.

And also a question: What is the plan for this language vs. region issue?

There is no plan, we are awaiting for further feedback/guidance from the community for next steps, preerably in the new thread detailing the problem and proposed solution.

9rqnq

Vlad due to technical limitations

Is it just temporary, and will you implement it at some point, or is this problem of a different kind in comparison to, for example, Belgium, and can't be solved in the same way?

preferably in the new thread

This thread already has a good history of suggestions and discussions on this topic. Will you move it to the new thread? And will you create this thread? Also, there are some other threads on the related topic, like that one. They should also be attended to.

I also tried to find more information on regions or language filtering in documentation, but there is not much about these topics. Will it be possible for the Kagi Team to reveal more information about it to make the discussion and suggestions more useful? It is also interesting to know how such things work.

Vlad

For anyone interested, discussion is continued here https://kagifeedback.org/d/3022-ideas-for-improving-localinternationalenglish-search-modalities

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