Kagi Translate Feedback

Dustin

I frequently notice that the translation voice output cuts off.

Two examples.

1) The voice output from the translation source. The translation played normally and in full.

kagi-translate-audio-cut-off.mp3

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2) The voice output from an English translation into German.

cut-off-english-source-german-output.mp3

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They just randomly stop abruptly, sometimes mid-word or sentence.

Vlad

Dustin Can you add steps to reproduce, browser version, and anything else that might be helpful.

Dustin

Vlad

I can reproduce by just adding text to either of the fields and hitting the speaker icon for the voice output. It seems to be random as to when and how often it cuts off.

Safari Version 18.3 (20620.2.2), Wipr 2 content blocker extension.

I can attempt to reproduce this with Orion and Firefox to see if it's related to Safari or not.

Pictor

Vlad oh my god

now that is cool. You should broadcast this capability more. Not only did I not know, I am not sure I ever even would have guessed.

Vlad

Pictor We were not aware that this is a useful use-case 🙂 we just happen to support it out of the box. How would we broadcast it more?

BenH

Hey happinessattack, this is because of sandboxing we're doing on our end causing Javascript to crash on some websites. Revamping webpage translations (and fixing this) is on our backlog and will probably be done in a month or so.

happinessattack

BenH Awesome, thanks Ben for the fast response! I'll check back after the next changelog.

BenH

scvalex Strange... This shouldn't be happening if you're logged in. I've pushed an update that might have fixed it. Let us know if it's still happening!

miicat_47

Vlad

Adding to the help page would be good start at least

RoxyRoxyRoxy

I use Auto Tab Discard in Firefox, which unloads inactive tabs. When I opened an unloaded Translate tab it appeared to shift the translation target language one language up in the list, without updating the UI:

"Emoji Speak" is above English and is what the target seems to have been set to. Obviously a very minor bug but still was a little startling to run across haha

kas

It would be nice if Translate could either remember the last language pair, or at least keep the last 2-4 used languages in the top of the drop down menu (with a horizontal bar to separate then from the full language list).

Most often I want to translate from one specific language (Danish) to another specific language (English), and it would be easier if I didn't have to adjust the source language every time (Danish is often confused with Norwegian, so the “Detect Language“ option is sometimes suboptimal).

BenH

kas We've added this now. Thanks for the suggestion!

Temanor

Vlad

How come mine looks like this?
I just followed your link.

Temanor

I also noticed, Kagi translate only has Norwegian Bokmål, and not Norwegian Nynorsk.
Is there any chance we can get a Nynorsk option as well?
Google translate is also missing this, so I didn't really expect it to be there, but it would be really nice to have.

bs10081

busywhistling This's a good idea, why didn't I think of this? Change my chinese media to english, then reading.

Kate-Karui

Something very interesting could be a context bar, in which you could optionally write the context where the text is from. Languages like Japanese sometime ignore referring to the subject at all since where the comment/text is placed makes it obvious in the text what they're referring to, but bring it out of the context and one would become pretty unsure what they mean. So an optional context box where you sometime could write something like "A YouTube video about a resturant" and using that context it could increase the quality of the translation quite easily. I'd like to hear opinions on this idea, I think it could be very useful.

Vlad

Kate-Karui Care to do a mockup of what would that look like?

Kate-Karui

Vlad I was thinking of something like this? (this is a very rough mockup)

Lynatic

Would be cool if searching for a term followed by a language (e.G. "ice cream spanish") already gave you a translation widget for that term like Google and Bing do it since the user is fairly possible looking for a translation of mentioned term.

While this "only" saves you 9 characters, it makes the translation widget easier to find (in fact I had to search this forum for a couple of minutes to figure out there was a search widget, no other major search engine requires a keyword for it to appear).

Google:

Bing:

Vlad

Lynatic It is not universally true. I think google/bing may be doing it for a few languages only as it may be tricky to detect all possible languages.

Also what if you are not an english speaker ? (the query is basically "ice cream shop english" but in serbian).

Google clearly struggles.

We opted to use word translate as a trigger for this reason. Happy to consider changes but it should probably be a new feature suggeestion with details.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

Kate-Karui If I wasn't reading this thread I would not know why context might be needed, maybe there could be a question mark tooltip hover explaining what adding context does?

Vlad

Kate-Karui Thanks! Placement looks fine but that placeholder text does not feel adequate. Can you come up with better wording? Also we need to have in mind that most users most of the time will not need to use it.

cmdress

Also getting a blank page in Safari when trying to access Kagi Translate

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