Kagi Privacy Pass

Mat00

As for custom lenses, the browser extension could display the list of lenses client side when Privacy Pass is turned on, but only submit the lens config to the server in case you actually use the lens, perhaps showing a warning to the user that continuing might reduce their anonymity. It would be even better if lens configs could be stored in a DuckDuckGo style Bookmarklet URL so that you can have a unique one for a "burner identity" without the config ever being associated with your Kagi account.

ssg

You probably are already aware, but I can't use Kagi Assistant with Privacy Pass at the moment.

eatyourglory

ssg You aren't meant to be able to use Kagi Assistant with Privacy Pass.

Luis

Hey ssg, MonoMatrix unfortunately those 2 services are not yet supported when using Kagi in Privacy Pass mode.Support is planned for future releases.

Please see https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html#important-notes for more details.

WompWomp

Potential regression on Kagi search on the latest version of Orion iOS?

This appears on every search, the “pp” hints at privacy pass? I have the feature disabled.

RyanPatterson

WompWomp same issue here, reported at https://kagifeedback.org/d/6321-modal-ppheaders-dialog

Luis

WompWomp
RyanPatterson

The next Orion iOS release will resolve this issue. (cc @dino )

MonoMatrix

When I have Kagi Privacy Pass enabled with the Firefox extension (135.0 (64-bit)) on my Windows 11 computer, upon entering Kagi Translate (https://translate.kagi.com/), it does not detect my Kagi account, and if I try to log in, it gives a 403 Forbidden. However, if I disable Kagi Privacy Pass, Kagi Translate works normally again and detects my login. Is this an error?

And are there possibilities to add support for the Firefox extension for Android?

Fria

Vlad There’s a proposal for a Privacy Pass API in web browsers https://github.com/WICG/trust-token-api
Kinda interesting. I wonder if this were implemented in all browsers would it be possible that we could use Kagi via privacy pass without an extension?

silvenga

drdaeman just replying to get more visibility - I think this (detection of incognito mode) would hugely improve the UX of using the extension.

Right now, the privacy pass mode is synced between incognito and non-incognito modes, which I will always forget (causing needless friction when switching between search sessions).

brgustavoribeiro

Pretty awesome! However, for the sake of consistency and simplicity, I believe it would be ideal to consolidate all features of this extension directly into the Kagi extension itself.

Having just one extension is sufficient, and I believe this approach could lead to an even better final result.

Vlad

brgustavoribeiro

Google does not allow extensions that change search engine to do anything else.

brgustavoribeiro

Vlad That's sad... But thx anyway! You're doing a great job w/ Kagi.

1000Phoenix

Using a browser-based VPN extension (Windscribe, in my case) throws an error on both Chromium browsers (Arc) and Firefox when trying to generate the tokens.

To generate, the VPN must disabled in the extension. It appears the extension works fine after initial generation, but it somewhat removes part of the privacy aspect if one has to disable their VPN to use the feature.

Chromium Firefox

alxjsn

I think there's a bug. Right now I am using the ProtonVPN Firefox extension and I get the same error while VPN is enabled, but I also noticed that search queries are directed to onion links, which doesn't happen while ProtonVPN is not connected.

Luis

@1000Phoenix @alxjsn we're looking into this and will provide an update as soon as we have more information

fernandov

Just to check, token generation is not affected if the VPN is used with a desktop client / not as a browser extension, correct?

Regarding privacy consequences, token generation not passing via a VPN will not affect your search anonimity.

alxjsn

fernandov Correct. But now it looks like I hit my monthly limit from testing so I can't use Privacy Pass anymore.

1000Phoenix

fernandov Unfortunately, I am out of tokens so cannot help test this further.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

alxjsn You should be able to reach out to support for more tokens, I'm sure they'd be happy to help if you've used up a bunch testing things.

RyanPatterson

Since privacy pass rolled out, Kagi has started asking me ~8 times per search to hand type something into a dialog. I press OK, Cancel, with no data passed, and after 8 or so prompts, my search goes through. This is on Orion iOS.

There should be a lint rule to stop prompt calls from being committed.

I confirmed there are no Orion updates in the App Store, and I tried using “close tabs and clear data” to no effect.

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