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    Ayaan it is not out yet. This is a placeholder for when it is out.

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      Ahhh well, you can see how that would confuse folks.

        It would be nice to have a setting in the Browser Extension versions that would enable privacy pass only when you open a Private Mode window. Doing this automatically is very helpful; if I am enabling Private Mode then I expect all my privacy tools to be turned on, and I would like Kagi to also follow this.

        Great feature! Thank you so much for looking out for new privacy safeguards!

          Is there a way to configure Orion to use Privacy Pass in private windows but not normal ones? I'd rather have my search personalizations available by default and then trade them for increased privacy when using a private window.

            Just wanted to say after reading over the blog post that I support the idea of being able to purchase Privacy Pass tokens without an account. I feel like it would be a big hit, and is likely to win over users that may still be uncomfortable using a logged-in search engine despite privacy policy assurances. Anecdotally the few people that I've talked to IRL about Kagi brought that up as a concern, and I'd imagine it's a common sentiment.

              ditto4356 Yes, it would be awesome if the WebExtensions would be able to automatically recognize the browsing context (it should be pretty simple - browser.extension.inIncognitoContext) and using regular sessions in regular browsing mode, but Privacy Pass in the private browsing/incognito mode. Not to entirely replace the manual toggle, but as a way to streamline the UX by reusing the built-in functionality to determine whenever user wants extra privacy or not.

                Although Microsoft Edge can use Chrome extensions, it would be great if the extension can be installed natively from Edge store.

                  Vlad this is really cool and I think it shows Kagi is a company that's serious about its privacy marketing; so both thank you and congratulations!

                  The biggest drawback for me is definitely the loss of search prioritization. I wonder if search prioritization options could be encrypted with the login password (kind of like a password vault). The client would then decrypt the "settings vault" and pass along the settings to the server.

                  This would allow searches to be tracked, however, the Kagi servers (under this model) would not be able to match the search settings back to the user ... because Kagi doesn't actually know who owns them anymore.

                  Barring that, I think what I'd like to see is the extension have an option to detect when its in a private browser window and automatically enable itself only for private windows (so I get some automatic control over when privacy pass is used based on how I normally use my browser).

                  Also, it seems the Privacy Pass option does not yet work for Firefox for Android (it says it's not compatible with Firefox mobile), so that's a bummer.

                    Kagi Android App should let you configure which browser to open. If I am using Privacy Pass, then I most likely would want to use a browser private session. In my case Privacy Pass searches are open in standard Firefox for Android tab.

                      I think I was the first one to suggest the idea of using blind tokens for kagi almost 3 years ago (https://kagifeedback.org/d/653-completely-anonymous-searches-unlinked-to-the-account-blind-tokens). Never expected it to actually be delivered!

                      Didn't check the technical details yet, but nice initiative!

                      DarkArc I wonder if search prioritization options could be encrypted with the login password (kind of like a password vault). The client would then decrypt the "settings vault" and pass along the settings to the server.

                      Also, this is a nice idea

                      Repeating @"DarkArc" - an extension for Firefox on Android would be nice.

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                      RoxyRoxyRoxy Yes I’d love to see that, we would be able to list Kagi on Privacy Guides if that were implemented.

                      I followed the TOR browser instructions for Mullvad Browser and added Kagi to search engines when visiting front-page using session token. After clearing cookies/cache/history, and trying to search using private pass, I get empty results most of the time