Kagi Translate Feedback

Thibaultmol

Fabriek are you asking about auto suggetions in the address bar or just accesing kagi assistant? because don't forget that !kt bang also exists

Vlad

Neagrammata Not clear what do you get for 5/mo? Can you elaborate as I am not familiar with DeepL offering.

Neagrammata

Vlad DeepL has separate pricing for their translation product and for their developer API.

Their translation product can be used for free with limited text lengths and functionality or as a paid version with multiple tiers:
https://www.deepl.com/en/pro
It includes the use of its well made apps.

The prices are not straightforward to compare with Kagi as Kagi offers much more than translation.

On top of that, they have an API that allows DeepL translate to be integrated straight into apps. For example a social media client that will translate posts using DeepL.
This API is free for up to 500000 characters per month or €5.-/month plus usage based character cost:
https://support.deepl.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021183620-DeepL-API-Free-vs-DeepL-API-Pro

Since it is difficult to compare products with different feature sets, here is how I look at it for my own personal needs.

As long as I can use Kagi Translate only via the web interface, its added value is the translation quality which is superior to DeepL.

However, most of the time, DeepL is good enough, so I use it because of the added convenience of a very good app which comes with extensions that integrate with my phone's OS and a desktop App. Its API allows me to use it straight from inside apps.

It takes me much less time to get my translation (albeit with an inferior quality) through DeepL than through Kagi. So I use Kagi translate only when I need the absolute best translation available to me.

Which means for reading things in a language I don't or do not fully understand I use mostly DeepL as it is absolutely good enough to help me understand.
If I am writing and need to make absolutely sure that my final text will be understood the best possible way in a foreign language I switch to Kagi.

I understand this takes time to build and has a cost attached to it and I would not expect this to be part of my Kagi subscription.
I would happily pay an extra €10/month for Kagi translate with OS integration through apps and extensions.

Currently I pay about a total of €8/month for the way I use DeepL.

BenH

Fabriek almost 🙂
https://translate.kagi.com/?from=Automatic&to=English&text=%25s%0A

Vlad

Neagrammata
Thanks providing more context.

I would happily pay an extra €10/month for Kagi translate with OS integration through apps and extensions.

This is interesting. Can you expand on what this means? What would you expect Kagi to do (buil an app, open an API?) Would love to learn more.

AndreL

Bug: Sometimes the output is in the wrong language.

Steps for reproducing are in the video. It usually seems to happen when I'm swapping the current language pair.

I can't see any request parameters indicating input/output languages, so I assume there's something wrong with my session.

Browser: Firefox 133.0

Neagrammata

Vlad Certainly. Happy to elaborate more and also show you a workflow with images or video. However, the screens would show more information than I am willing to share publicly. Any way I can DM or e-mail you?

GARZ

I (and probably many others) often need a translation for several languages, and most of the time the same selection of languages. Would be great to have the possibility to select multiple target languages, e.g. with something like.

https://translate.kagi.com/?source=German&target=French,English,Italian

Vlad

GARZ You can already do this

https://translate.kagi.com/?source=German&target=French,English,Italian&text=Hello

johen

Vlad How do I do this through the UI?

GARZ

Vlad Oh, wow, great!

Pictor

Vlad oh my god

now that is cool. You should broadcast this capability more. Not only did I not know, I am not sure I ever even would have guessed.

Temanor

Vlad

How come mine looks like this?
I just followed your link.

MonoMatrix

There is an error in which if you switch the language very quickly, the translated phrases switch between both languages as can be seen in this image:

skobkin

Looks promising!

But my personal deal breaker is lack of alternatives/synonyms which Google Translate has:

I'd also liked to see "favorite languages" which I can quickly select without using search or scrolling. Like Google Translate Android app does with "recent languages" (which is also fine for me).

menubar

low-key Vlad

When using &text= URL parameters, the source language showing "detect" appears fixed, but it doesn't display the detected "from" language. Is there a way to implement this? Can be an issue translating across related languages sometimes

For clarity, I'm using a string like https://translate.kagi.com/?source=&target=English&text=TEXT

MonoMatrix

There are cases where when translating individual letters or certain words, the translator provides a description of the word or indicates that it is a letter, and if you click the language switch button, it transfers the meaning of the word to the translation text field, which doesn't make much sense. Here you can see the image:

I am unaware if it is a behavior done intentionally by the Kagi team that I get descriptions of certain words, but in those cases, the button to reverse languages should at least be disabled, as seen in this image, right?

oreoro

MonoMatrix working fine for me

Vlad

Neagrammata Sure vlad@kagi.com, appreciate it

oreoro

is there a voice option for input?

MonoMatrix

oreoro

Sometimes it doesn't play the first time, but if you refresh the page and try several times, you will be able to play it. Sometimes, instead of translating the words, it gives their meaning. Here is another example:

aware

Hello
I think it's broken

and
500
JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data

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