Exact match qith quotes should work with videos

GregZuro

https://kagi.com/videos?q=%22FaderGrease%22

Yields mostly "Grease" (the movie) results.

I expect to see only results that contain the quoted term(s).

Vlad

GregZuro The first result in Kagi seems to be what you are looking for?

Is the expectaiton for this to be the only result shown o rthere are others you were expecting to be shown but are not shown in Kagi? We currently do not enforce quotes in video search like we do in main search, so this may be something for us to look into.

Drew

Yeah, Google not respecting quotes is one of the reasons I dumped it. I'm searching for info about a specific product model from a company that sells many types of those things. With verbatim enabled and personalized results disabled, I searched for:

[Brand] "[Descriptor] [Item]" [specific]

It's giving me a bunch of results with things like:

Blah blah blah [Brand] [Item] blah blah... blah blah [Descriptor] blah blah...

And that's it. Sometimes I want a fuzzy search, and sometimes I want a VERBATIM search that will give me verbatim results so I enable the verbatim option. If there are no hits, that's useful information. Adding in non-verbatim results makes this tool not worth paying extra for search, TBH. I'll give it a few more days to see if this gets acknowledged as a bug being worked on, but if not, I'm just going to cancel my subscription. Sorry, but if I'm going to be frustrated by search that doesn't trust my search terms, it should at least not have an out-of-pocket expense. I hope that's not what's going on, here.

GregZuro

(This was not the first result when I did the search. )

To answer your question: I only ever want to see results that match my search. I don't want helpful guesses on the search engine's part.

In this case, when I'm trying to explicitly narrow the search, its a bit infuriating that there are so many useless results.

How am I to know when to stop scrolling this 99.9% useless list?

More is definitely not better.

Consistency is also good...

I feel strongly about this, but don't take my response as hostile, please. 🙂 I really appreciate that you folks are here having these conversations.

Cheers,
Greg

Vlad

GregZuro I guess my point is that exact match with videos is not clear. Do you match the title of the video? Comments on the youtube page? how about related videos that show up on the page? Or content in the video?

Exact match for web pages is more straightforward, and it is not clear what the quivalent for a video would be (or for that matter a podcast or an image)

GregZuro

I'd say: video title and video description if a 'strict' search is indicated.
Include content (transcription?) if not strict.

I'd think that comment would be a loser, with the high incidence of comment spam.
Related videos also seems like a danger zone given the vagaries of the 'relation' algorithms.