Kagi Sidekick

kagifdbk

Link seems to be down? Also I don't see Sidekick in the docs. Delayed launch?

Vlad

Both things are live now.

Value7609

The AI response definitely should be debounced further and either trigger after stopping typing for like 500ms or after pressing enter. Otherwise it's really stressing to use, when it answers your half finished question while typing.

Value7609

@Vlad can we get sidekick for kagifeedback.org? The kagifeedback search is really lacking

Dustin

Value7609 that is a great suggestion!

EvacuatedTerminal

After trying it out and doing some testing, it seems like it could use some general improvements/fixes:

While doing some testing, it seems that the rate limits don't seem to be handled at all. If you happen to hit them there is just an empty box and the only way to know you hit a rate limit would be to check the developer console.
The responses could be more concise as they seem very wordy currently. For example, with a prompt like "what are the plans", you get nearly an entire paragraph about how the plans cater to different users and the like, but the pricing is only mentioned for the Ultimate plan. A follow up prompt in the "chat" mode seems to help, but it would be better if it were presented from the start.
When going from the search bar response to the chat mode through the "Keep Chatting..." link, it should ideally keep the prompt and response.
When closing the chat area, there seems to be a Kagi logo left behind (which has a Kagi grey background around it, which seems like it should be transparent?). This logo doesn't really tell you what it does, a chat icon could probably serve this purpose better. It also seems to just "appear" out of nowhere. It would probably be a good idea to have it there from the start or not have it afterwards.

Overall though, it doesn't seem too bad and I was impressed with how quickly it seemed to respond.

ignami

On the sidekick web page, only small/personal and commercial websites are mentionned:

We intend to offer Sidekick as a free service for small/personal websites and reasonably priced search option for commercial websites

What about larger but non commercial websites, such as the website of a (Public) University Library, for instance?

Vlad

ignami Yes will be possible

DonaldDuck

I got stuck in an endless loop:

tschoesi

DonaldDuck Same thing is happening to me.

Luis

DonaldDuck We're looking into it -- should be resolved soon!

abb128

This seems rather unexpected (yes I did a typo but still)

haruki_zaemon

Can anyone point me at documentation for how to use sidekick on my personal website/blog?

Value7609

haruki_zaemon in the links that Vlad posted it says

https://sidekick.kagi.com/

We are currently in the process of gauging demand for this service. Please register your interest and we'll notify you when it launches. You can also submit feedback in the Sidekick discussion thread.

haruki_zaemon

Value7609 Yeah I saw that. I had registered but hadn't heard anything back. I wondered if there was something I'm missing. Sounds like not.

Vlad

haruki_zaemon We are still working on this and will notify via email when ready.

Value7609

Here are two issues I opened which are about sidekick, but also impact the usability of the docs, so I reported them as seperate threads instead of here:

https://kagifeedback.org/d/4058-the-search-sidekick-in-the-documentation-also-searches-through-the-orion-docs

https://kagifeedback.org/d/4059-sidekick-does-not-get-focused

Highlighting them here, as they are indirect feedback