I want NOTHING to do with Ai. Also, the limited tier is like limited bandwidth; worthless.

nologin4feedback

Ai is, at best, a profound waste of time, resources, and electricity. It is a pipe dream of corporate greed. I like the idea of your service, but ONLY if you can do it without ANY Ai, and block all Ai derived results.

I am only interested in what PEOPLE create.

Also, the very idea of a LIMITED number of searches in technology designed for information retrieval is antithetical to the whole point.

You should have a low cost unlimited version ($4) for Students, Teachers, Veterans, and Senior Citizens. Perhaps even make the Senior Citizen price $1 as a temporary price for the next 4 years, since being tech savy as a senior is still somewhat less common.

Your core price, for the next 4 years, for unlimited should be $7. It shows more confidence in your service, and is more likely to help you start with a wide user base.

Those suggestions are intended IF you are even capable of extricating your service from Ai. If you can't, then your service is just another attempt to monetize Ai slop.

Search engines used to work pretty well. The reason they don't anymore, is that the corporations trusted to do that job abused the technology to the point of breaking.

Ai is just a new corporate algorithm wearing an 80s ninja costume. It only serves the corporations interests: gathering personal data, steering users toward profitable sites, setting a precedent of believing what corporations tell you is truth just because they used the misnomer 'Ai'. What the 'Ai' does when a user calls out it's literally made up/randomly copied answer as false is insidious: it flips the situation on the user and starts asking US all the questions it needs to in order to 'fix' its answer, or more likely, to make it's answer harder to detect as bullshit!
Btw, the massive electricity needed to process this exponentially growing pile of slop is being irresponsibly ADDED to our global carbon footprint.

The worst thing of all is where this all goes if we let it...

What do you think those greedy corporations do, AFTER they get their human dupes to 'train' their Ai's?

They claim OWNERSHIP of all the information & 'creativity' they compiled from all our stolen content, and stolen time correcting their nonsense.

sloniki

AI is a great power, it is already changing the world dramatically, and my life personally. I want to leverage AI as much as possible, and I believe Kagi has great potential to do it. Hopefully they will develop the assistant and offer new features. Without AI adoption Kagi will be not relevant in 1-2 years. Now they have a chance to create next generation AI-backed search and assitance.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

Hi, thanks for your thoughts on this. You've probably seen @Anonymous12 marked this as a dupe of #1338, but I'd like to keep it separate to talk about the pricing issue.

We realise that paid search isn't going to be for everyone, but our current costs are set based on what we need to survive. Kagi is not a VC-backed company, we have no 100-billion in investor cash backing us. You, our users, provide our capital, and that's part of what makes Kagi so special.

See #687 for more info regarding price adjustments base on who's buying (e.g. seniors, students). The simple fact is we cannot do that without raising the prices for everyone else. Search is surprisingly expensive, even though Google et al. have trained most people to think of it as free 🙃

As far as the Starter plan being a bit useless: for some people, yea it is. I probably do 2000 searches a month, no way I could survive on 300 searches. For others though (especially older folks as you yourself brought up), this is a fine amount of searches at just the right price point.

Finally, as for AI (the big one): yes, there are valid concerns about the way AI is going, and where it came from. Yes, there's valid concerns about how it's being used, and how people interact with it. I don't think there's a single person on the dev team that doesn't share or isn't at least cognizant of those concerns.

We are committed to humanising the Web, and that's reflected in our AI integration philosophy. We don't want to slop up the Internet either, and our tools are designed fully around the idea of getting out of your way so you can spend more time away from the computer (or if you like the computer, away from Kagi 😉), doing things that matter.