Kagi is terribly biased

WillBracken

I was excited to find Kagi. However, after only a few searches, the liberal bias was painfully obvious. At this point, pretty much all search engines, chat bots, and wikis on the web are biased and useless for real info.

No user issues. Simply provide accurate search results.

Vlad

WillBracken How?

mullinggroove

WillBracken

WillBracken Simply provide accurate search results.

Translation: Kagi is not replicating the information found in my highly biased and homogeneous social media feed, which is The Truth™.

Such highly reactive users can't be served as it clashes with one of Kagi's core principles: providing unbiased search.

Value7609

Would you mind sharing some example searches?

tempname1024

As the saying goes, if everywhere you go smells like sh**...

WillBracken

tempname1024 You should move on? That's what I'm doing.

WillBracken

Sure, why not. Let's start with something simple:
just try "trump racism quotes"

What you get is lies, propaganda, heresay, and liberal hate.
What you DO NOT get are results disputing the lies.
In any case, there aren't any racist quotes to find.
In 2024, a search engine should be able to navigate something this obvious.
Instead, Kagi (like the vast majority) is designed to trash the opposition.

Am I right?
Or should we file a bug report?

Respectfully,
Will Bracken

carl

WillBracken

But wouldn't it be pretty easy with Kagi to find those results by changing your query a little? I think it should work.

To make a completely unrelated example, if I search for "moon landing debunked" there will be a result not far down saying the moon landings didn't happen.

If I search for "Biden racism quotes", the top results are not biased for Biden.

You get what you ask for from a search engine, but you have to ask the right way.

fxgn

WillBracken

In 2024, a search engine should be able to navigate something this obvious

But... THAT would actually be bias? The goal of a search engine is to find what you're looking for, not to decide what's real and what's not. If you search for "trump is racist", you should see relevant articles about how he is racist. If you search for "biden is racist", it'll show you pages about that. It's not the job of the search engine to fact-check information for you and decide if it's true or not. As long as it's relevant to your search query rather than being random SEO spam, the search engine did it's job well.

Value7609

@WillBracken I think it would be helpful to also include the search results you got to see what you mean with bias (maybe even a short explanation why a particular search result is biased)

WillBracken

carl Carl, I didn't try a single search and make a hasty judgement.

Dustin

WillBracken

I think the Kagi team would find it much more useful and constructive to give actual detailed examples of what you're looking for, what results you feel are "biased" and what you expect to be presented to you.

Your first example of "trump racism quotes" is already flawed because Kagi will always try to correct poor spelling and grammar and instead adjusts the query as "trump racist quotes".

Each of these queries will give completely different search results (of course). Perhaps somewhere in there you can find a result that makes you feel heard & seen.

I might suggest you make use of the site filtering features of Kagi. You can downrank or even block sites from appearing altogether, giving you a more narrow search experience that better supports your needs.

You could query "shoes without shoelaces" for example and if the top result is for nike.com, you can remove that result completely.