Option to turn off all AI features

carl

andreagrandi Very original to compare other posters an AI. Haven't seen that a thousand times...

The fact is that Kagi doesn't shove AI down your throat and has an easy way to turn off AI. Ask yourself if maybe the main point to be heard and seen or is it having an actual issue resolved?

Not to mention that a huge chunk of your search results will land you on pages full of AI-generated text, even in Kagi.

If you want almost AI-free results there is an easy way, search using Google Books or Z-Library.

Vlad

carl This is not helpful, lets keep it in the spirit of collaboration.

Vlad

andreagrandi

That’s why, in my request, I specified “disable AI features from search”.

Just to align on the context, AI is used in search everywhere, for example to understand query intent or rank pages. What I think you mean is "LLM features in search"?

This is where Kagi has only one such feature that triggers semi-automatically when you add ? to the query and it can already be disabled as discussed previously.

andreagrandi

Vlad yes, I did mean LLM features in search results

carl

Vlad If you read my post again, I think you can see that it is quite helpful, since it contains advice on how to search without getting any AI generated content in the search results. A method that works right now and that I use myself when it is essential that sources contain no machine generated stuff. Now that big tech is proudly releasing many AI tools for content generation, I believe these book sources will only increase in importance.

"Disable LLM features in Search"

Does the average person know this acronym? Maybe "Disable AI features in search" would fit better? Or "Machine generated"?

Vlad

andreagrandi This is helpful. I think this kind of 'master switch' would also mean removing it from UI, so if we had a switch like "Disable LLM features in Search" it seems you would expect that it would:

Hide Quick Answer
Hide Summarize/Ask questions
Hide Assistant features

Correct?

marc_vb

Vlad

Vlad
I personally also want the AI

Vlad
For me that’s correct.

andreagrandi

Vlad correct. Either a “master switch” or just like the screenshot I provided which comes from DDG settings.

Vlad

carl I meant the general tone of discussion, lets keep it constructive vs confrontational. Thanks.

ChristOFF

Provide a Plan for Kagi without any AI
a Plan with the search engine only

I would like to see a plan without any AI only search

Vlad

ChristOFF AI is used in search everywhere for example to analyze query intent, rank pages etc. Do you mean LLMs in particular?

marc_vb

Vlad
I personally am indeed referring to LLM and other AI features that violates privacy / IP and/or negatively affects the environment (eg. huge energy consumption).

AI is (mis)used for a lot of things lately, because it's "cool". You could say that Photoshop already had AI in 1990 (...). But seriously, using "AI" for local processes, would be no problem for me personally. As long as the search results aren't based on "guessing" what the searcher wants and is just providing the best results based on the query.

ChristOFF

Vlad I mean external costly LLM usage
OpenAI is not cheap.
I know that a token is cheap but at the end of the day it will cost Kagi a LOT if I summarize a lot of content.

My point is

External LLM will cost a lot
I don't want to pay for that (as I won't use it)
I want to continue to pay for the best search engine

Vlad

AI is a broad term and encompasses machine learning. Machine learning has been used in search for decades. It is almost impossible to run large scale web search without the use of machine learning in some context.

Vlad

Ikuti

In that case a compromise to me would be to keep all the AI related features under 1 category inside the settings.

I think this makes sense. We already have Assistant related settings (which are currently accessible in ultimate plan only) and it makes sense to move everything related into one settings page.

Luis

Hi everyone, we've introduced a dedicated AI section in the Kagi settings to consolidate all GenAI-related features for easier management.
Currently, the only GenAI feature that activates automatically is the Auto Quick Answer. All other AI features require explicit user activation, which is why there are no switches for them.

NoahV

I'd love the ability to disable all AI features, so: entirely disabling quick answer - removing the button and auto answers with "?", removing links to the Universal Summariser in the menu, removing links to fastGPT in the menu, and removing the assistant in the menu.

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