Kagi (news) feed

sauterp

Hey, love Kagi.
The Problem: I started using Twitter because I wanted to follow other software engineers and stay updated on the 'niche' that I'm interested in. But as with all social media the interests of the platform don't align with mine and I get too many recommendations that I'm not interested in. In general it's really hard to 'filter' the internet for what I am interested in and for what's important to me.
The Solution: I'd love to have an AI that crawls the web for me and gets news, videos, articles, data, insights, tweets, newsletters, etc. filters and ranks it and shows it to me as a feed much like twitter but without the noise and drama. I could increase or decrease the priority of the content the way I can do this already with Kagi search results.

Vlad

sauterp This already exists and is called TinyGem.org

It is what Kagi uses to show news. When you start saving links you like it will start recommending you content in the "For You" feed. Try it and let me know how it feels.

We should probably build this into Kagi somehow, let me know if that makes sense?

carl

What you want is an RSS reader, or to connect stuff to an e-mail adress for subscribing to stuff that interests you.

sauterp

Vlad TinyGem.org is exactly what I wanted. You're a visionary!
I'm happy to use TinyGem for 'news' and Kagi for search as separate tools. However, since you're moving towards AI and you also have the Orion browser, this gives you the data to provide even better personalized suggestions. I look forward to the day where I can open my browser in the morning with a coffee in my hand and type(or speak) "Orion, I'd like to read some news from the Go programming language community." and it suggests content that I find interesting, based on my search history.
A privacy-minded individual might look at this and be concerned, that this development is Google all over again. But as long as I am paying for this service with my 'money' and not with my 'data' and my 'privacy' and as long as the suggestions I get are a service 'to me' and not a service 'to advertisers', I'm happy.

Vlad

sauterp We started working on a new interface to surface news. Very early prototype here: https://kagi-news.onbrn.com

You will be able to customize topics, just want to get feedback on the UX/UI and any features we should think about.

Let us know your feedback.

sauterp

awesome!
Changing the "Buzz" and "Recency" rulers doesn't seem to have an effect on the first 6 suggestions, they stay the same(I didn't check further down).

https://kagi-news.onbrn.com/?topic-python=0&topic-django=0&topic-tech=2&topic-ai=2&topic-apple=3&content-buzz=5&content-recency=5

Vlad

sauterp Yes as I said it is very early on. Not really looking for bug reports (we know it is buggy) but for feedback on the idea/concept.

sauterp

Got it.

Idea: Split between work, personal and other contexts. When I use kagi at work, I do a lot of searches on topics that I don't want to read about when I'm on vacation. So I'd like to be able to feed my search history into different 'models'. I split my internet experience by setting up different browser profiles where I log into work and personal accounts. Since kagi is a paid service and I hope it stays that way, I don't want to have to pay for multiple accounts to get a split between work/personal/etc.
Love the 'Comment on: ' section. Maybe it can be generalized to spaces beyond HN and Reddit. There are other sites that function a forum for discussion around hyperlinks like HN, such as https://lobste.rs/ Maybe this Comment on section can be personalized with the communities individual users interact with.
Idea: There could be a 'Politics' slider. Sometimes I'm not in the mood for politics.

Vlad

sauterp Thanks good feedback, keep it coming. The demo is updated almost daily.

https://kagi-news.onbrn.com/

sauterp

Glad to help:

Idea: Add options or sliders to filter by 'Amount of JavaScript' or 'Cookie banner'.
Maybe this is crazy but hey, the age of AI is coming: I like reading HN discussions, sometimes they give me lots of new perspective and thought material and sometimes they are repetitive or very niche. Perhaps the suggestion AI could analyze the discussion and include that in the scoring of the suggestions, whether the discussion is interesting to me personally based on my interests or whether it is interesting in general based on the originality of the contributors.
Include a summarize button in the suggestion cards, similar to how kagi already does it with search results.
Video, Film or Book suggestions would be great too.

areilly

I was just about to add this as a suggestion, but lo: it's already here and already a thing!

The present example seems to filter on the basis of a set of topics, which is OK as far as it goes but there aren't very many of them, and I think that it would need to be able to be personalized, similar to the way kagi search allows you to disable feeds from particular sources. Being able to add topics (or choose from a larger list and then apply kagi-search filtering) would be important.

Multiple tabs or sections, so that your politics news wasn't bleeding into your tech or sport news?

I already lean heavily on RSS feeds for "news", so I would be looking for something that can cover the things that I don't want to follow specifically and currently rely on human-curated feeds for (news publishers of the traditional sort).

It doesn't appear that you've turned the handle on kagi-news.obrn.com since last October. Does that mean that the experiment is failing? Perhaps this feature might be a better fit for Feedly, my RSS reader of choice, which already knows my self-curated feeds and reading history?

Best of luck: all good so far.