Stocks, Crypto and Forex - Integration

Xytronix

As a user of Kagi I am looking for support of stocks, crypto and forex for Kagi Search and Ki Assistant.

Following features are helpful while searching on Kagi:

Graphs
Prices (What was the price on a specific date?)
Questions following on technical analysis (pattern recognition)
Company Information including KPIs
News (for all macro-economic analyst)
Trading Indicators
Technical Analysis (Elliott Waves)
Filings (Earning Calls)

Kagi currently uses Yahoo Finance to display stock information, currently no more in depth system is implemented.
Wolfram Alpha is a great implementation and I would love Kagi to bring the same standard to the trading field.

Following partners can be considered for integration into Kagi Search and Kagi Assistant:

Finnhub for Stocks, Indices, Crypto, Forex and various filings
https://finnhub.io and https://finnhub.io/filings-search-api
Bloomberg Terminal for Crypto, Forex, Stocks and Indices
https://www.bloomberg.com/professional/products/bloomberg-terminal/
Yahoo Finance
TradingView for Graphs (Stocks, Indices, Crypto and Forex)
CoinMarketCap for Graphs (Crypto and Crypto Indices)
CoinGecko for Graphs (Crypto)

Dustin

Don't all these additions (such as Finnhub and Bloomberg Terminal) come with exceptional costs that Kagi would need to pass on to the user?

Xytronix

Dustin Indeed, they cost money. Kagi pays for Wolfram Alpha as well.
As the prices aren't publicly disclosed we can't really discuss it.

I think a lot would prefer addons with a recurring pricing or PAYG, should the cost become a problem.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

Xytronix Subscription addons are an interesting idea, I’d much prefer that over raising the price unilaterally for something many users won’t need.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

RoxyRoxyRoxy To expand on this- Kagi could likely execute stuff like this really well. API aggregation and curation for quality, plus integration with other offerings, all served in a private, user-aligned manner. Of course that's assuming there's demand, but if there is addons like this could definitely be worth pursuing.

MichaSobczyk

Is a search engine really a good place to display that kind of content? I think the idea behind the search engine is to search through multiple sites containing the same type of information and retrieve that data. For example if you were in the library and were searching for nutritional data for milk you would like to get a list of books containg values for milk, tables, text, graphs etc. Information that milk contains X grams of fat is in multiple sources.
In your case I think you request that Kagi presents all that market data on the Kagi search results page which defies the purpose of a search engine. It would be like when you go to a library you requested the librarian to give you information on how many grams of fat is there in milk.
It's a question of what we think is the purpose of a search engine. Is it there to tell us what the truth is or is it there to show us all possible sources of truth and then it is our job to find it?
I'm both a former professional trader and also I used to work for a company selling data you request. If Kagi is supposed to be a search engine then it should integrate all possible APIs that would search through all data providers to search for example for 1 trading indicator and retrieve a list of many websites. If Kagi is supposed to just present the data instead of presenting search results then it goes into the business of charting and analytic platforms because the amount of data is immense. I don't think a search engine would satisfy any trader or analyst, I can't imagine anyone doing technical analysis through Kagi. As for professional users (brokerages, funds, banks etc), they all use Bloomberg and Reuters terminals for research, no one searches through Google or Kagi. These platforms cost EUR 24k + VAT per year per user. It's possible to implement simple charting from tradingview through API for cheap but it will take a lot of space on the page and it will not satisfy anyone because for charting traders need full screen view and Kagi design is basically a page that you scroll down. Google's stock price chart on search results is so small it's totally useless:
https://www.google.com/search?q=tsla+stock&uact=5
I can't imagine anyone doing research through Google's search engine. I think the only reason Google shows that widget is because they're in the advertising business and they want you to stay on the page instead of to click on a link to an external website. I don't know but is there any trader or professional analyst satisfied with that kind of widget?
When it comes to pattern recognition there are so many factors including timeframe, instruments, internal parameters within the algorithm that practically the only way to do it right is to do it through a dedicated tool like tradingview or bloomberg because for 1 user and 1 query there are millions of ways it could possibly be presented and kagi responds to simple requests like "bitcoin trading opportunities". On specialized platforms you can narrow down the criteria and the results will make more sense, here Kagi would show you results that would not satisfy you.
Imagine if Kagi scanned for matches for a date on the results page. For example you search for "nice chicks in Berlin" and Kagi connects through APIs to dating websites and apps and tries to present to you profiles of ladies with photos on the search result page, marks them with indicators through pattern recognition (like "nice butt", "smells good", "kind of dumb"). As a result Kagi would show you maybe 4 photos before you scroll down and the results on top of page will not satisfy you because they're arbitrary (there are so many parameters). You would have to go to those websites directly anyway to get any sensible information. In the end we would question - what is the added benefit of those 4 photos with tags, did we gain any new information or did we ignore it, scrolled to the bottom and clicked on a link to a dating platform anyway?

Xytronix

MichaSobczyk Thank you for the background.

Google is expanding the scope of AI Overview with positive reception, while Kagi’s own, more limited version has also been well received.

Enhancing result presentation is crucial, as many users don’t have time to browse multiple sources before making a decision. Investing one to two hours in trading is feasible for the average worker or business owner, and Kagi can help deepen their understanding while searching the web.

For broad queries such as bitcoin trading opportunities, generic result quality won't be sufficient.

I do believe Kagi should continue investing resources into AI Overviews and the ability to upload images with contextual queries. Customizable search preferences and integrated data sources are vital for ensuring results meet a specified quality standard.

For pattern recognition, this is a field you can go in depth with the Ki Assistant - provided it has access to valuable data sources, such as those from the partners I suggested. Here is an example of a potential use case for pattern recognition https://zhgseaon.manus.space

Here is another example of AI usage for trading: https://manus.im/share/xFgpHb15vKqfRPWIs3JJPJ?replay=1

Expanding on this following data sources are valuable:
(Free to use)
Stock and News API - https://www.alphavantage.co

(Paid)
Currencies - https://currencylayer.com
Exchange - https://www.iexexchange.io
Trading Platform - https://tradier.com