Safe Search DNS locking for IT administrators

Vlad

Can we summarize the ask(s)?

Browsing6853

Vlad People want to make harder to bypass safe search. Possibilities:

Special Kagi server ip addresses (e.g. every google search to IP addresses 216.239.38.120 have forced safe search). (OP's original request)
Special subdomain with forced safe search (e.g. kids.kagi.com)
Kids account with disabled sign-out button

(1) and (2) imply a external control over the DNS. Note you can assume the parents are probably already blocking Google before trying to block Kagi (no reason to use a super restrictive Kagi account while the kid could just access google.com)

MagicMouse

I realise that this thread is almost a year old, but I just wanted to bump it back up. Being able to enforce safe search at the network level (through, for e.g., dnsmasq) would be very helpful. I currently do this for all search engines that provide safe search domains or ip addresses and block all other search engines.

Me

Is it possible for you to liaise with Nextdns so that by default if Nextdns is being used and safesearch is enabled kagi is also automatically returning safesearch results. Nextdns support Google safesearch etc and block all SEs that do not support safesearch

Intig

+1 from me for this request as well.

All other major search engines already allow for a DNS-based safe search enforcement. This allows other tools to then use that same method. For instance if you use NextDNS as your DNS provider, you can enable a Safe Search option that enforces Safe Search on all search engines when on the network. That prevents anyone being able to just switch to a different account to bypass settings - the option to turn of safe search just completely goes away. But it isn't possible for Kagi at the moment.

Vlad

Intig

All other major search engines already allow for a DNS-based safe search enforcement.

Can you share bit more on this? I never heard about this feature.

Intig

Vlad Sorry for the super slow response.

So for instance Google has forcesafesearch.google.com. Bing has strict.bing.com. Those addresses have SafeSearch always on.

If you then reroute the google.com IP to go to the forcesafeseach.google.com IP (or you have your DNS provider do it via some sort of parental controls they might have), now your children or whatever can't just go and turn SafeSearch off.

Vlad

Intig Interesting I never heard of this. Thanks for sharing the information.

Intig

Is there any potential progress on this? This is the only feature missing from Kagi that I really need.

macro

Hello, any news on that ?

macro

Any update on this feature ? Is there a way to block some results to a non-kid family member ?

phat_sumo

I am finding myself in need of this feature too- my new job has completely blocked Kagi in the office (via CleanBrowsing's DNS-based solution). They won't unblock it until Kagi is able to support a DNS-based safesearch enforcement.

I've found Kagi incredibly helpful for my searching, but I will be forced to cancel my subscription if this isn't implemented.

restisstillunwritten

phat_sumo I think this is a really good example of the benefits of implementing this on Kagi's end - there will be lots of other Kagi users in a similar boat I'm sure!. I also just want to say that I completely agree with parents' wishes stated above for some sort of Kids Kagi, but I personally would rather have a forcesafesearch.kagi.com or strict.kagi.com as opposed to kids.kagi.com if you see what I mean? As in, I'd like Kagi's safe search settings to be locked by my DNS provider, but not have my customisation of Kagi curtailed, which I fear it would if I was pushed into some kids version of Kagi.

Any update Kagi team on this feature? I see it's tagged as 'planned'...

Many thanks

restisstillunwritten

anotherhue personally, this wouldn't solve it for me. Many people use DNS filtering services themselves to humanise the web. These DNS services often have an 'enforce SafeSearch on browsers that support it and block those that cannot' setting, that I for one like to enable. I don't want to be able to toggle safe-search mode on and off from within Kagi, but lock it behind my (locked) DNS settings. I want to use Kagi as an individual, with just the one account. I really like how my DNS service blogs toggling safe search on and off in Google, but I don't like Google.

restisstillunwritten

macro Yes! I use Techlockdown and really want to use Kagi, but this is a stumbling block

z64

Not off the table, but we haven't comitted to implementing this at this time, updated the status accordingly.

restisstillunwritten

ahhh ok 😕

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