patrick-nicholson How should we handle when people actually want to search for a url (for exaple to summarize it as it becamse very popular after our release?)
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I would expect that summarizing a literal URL is better served by a different interface than search since the results being summarized will contain more than just that URL.
patrick-nicholson what I am trying to say is that searching for a URL is a legitimate use case. We could expect people to quote URLs for URl search but that would have the issue of discoverability?
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Vlad From my perspective, suggestions are better served by redirect. If suggestions are routed differently than manual returns, literal URL searches wouldn't need to change.
Put another way, the current browser UX is confusing. I use Kagi as my default browser search provider. If I enter a literal URL in the address bar I go there. If I start typing a URL and get a Kagi suggestion that I accept, I get a Kagi search.
patrick-nicholson That makes sense, if the referrer is not another kagi page, we should redirect. Although this should really be the job of the browser. Why is it sending a URl to search in the first place? Orion browser will correctly open the URl for example.
Vlad It happens when it's a Kagi suggestion. Specifically, I have this issue in Kiwi Browser on Android (Chromium based).
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With the advent of the enhancing of tracking numbers in Kagi search being revealed, there was a good point brought up in #general chat of the Kagi Search Discord guild.
Maybe it would be better to have a bang leading to a separate delivery tracking page so that users wouldn't waste searches trying to look up delivery status?
https://discord.com/channels/849884108750061568/849884109240270890/1088184798872350840
As there are a finite amount of searches, I would imagine something as brief as checking the tracking number would make a customer feel cheated as it was so brief. Likewise with making quick calculations / conversions via more integrated functions within the search bar. So, would it be feasible to, instead of adding these functions to generally enhance what that 1 search being spent actually gives the user, expand the functionality of the search bar so that certain, direct, quick searches can be sought after without spending that 1 search? Like, going to the Kagi search page and typing down a tracking number and only have the search bar expand to give tracking details without performing a search?
(edited to amend as I have discovered that it roughly costs more to perform these types of queries using official API)
With the calculator, it is helpful that the answer is immediately given for a calculation in the context menu, but oftentimes there may be more than one calculation needing to be made. So, there will still be that expenditure of one search, but with the integrated calculator with the search results, anymore will be avoided.
Vlad even though it has shrunk in scope, i am ultimately asking for simple actions that aren't necessarily searches that have the user use one of their finite amount of searches in order to perform it to not use one of the searches, like calculations. so, like, performing a calculation or conversion; instead of pressing enter and making them spend a search to then be granted greater ability to do further calculations as there is a calculator widget, there should be a built in ability of Kagi's front page or similar to have it performed inside of the search bar without incurring a search. but this is assuming stuff like this doesn't incur tremendous cost.
Vlad another way i can put it is a user putting in 2 + 2 into the Kagi.com search bar and instead of simply giving an answer via taking them to the search results, the user presses enter and have the context menu transform into a calculator so that they can avoid spending that one search and make further calculations. it will keep the user on Kagi but won't explicitly make them feel cheated out of a search.
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@Vlad Is this still an ongoing thing, now that we have unlimited searches? Are the cost savings worth implementing this to Kagi?
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