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Merged 10 posts from Add an option at the top (alongside images, web...) for shopping .

    I've found Kagi lacking when searching for online shopping, and have to turn back to google. Here I was looking for a book, "Web Development with Clojure, Third Edition", with a retailer that operates within Australia, Kagi returns relevant results about the book including reviews, the publishers site, and an amazon.com link for the query "Web Development with Clojure, Third Edition australia" [1]. However it doesn't return any results relevant to purchasing it in Australia specifically.

    Google [2] however returns an australian retailer (booktopia.com.au) with the book for sale as the first result, an amazon.com.au link, and plenty of other retailers (inc. dymocks). Which was exactly what I was looking for.

    While I wouldn't trust about 1/3 of googles results it does find the retailers I was looking for. Kagi requires additional prompting, Web Development with Clojure, Third Edition australia buy online [3] for it to return anything from booktopia.com.au, even though it is the 3rd last link and only links to the home page not even the book. It actually returns [4] as the top hit, which has no relevance other than they are a software engg firm...

    [1] https://kagi.com/search?q=Web+Development+with+Clojure%2C+Third+Edition+australia
    [2] https://www.google.com/search?channel=crow5&client=firefox-b-d&q=Web+Development+with+Clojure%2C+Third+Edition+australia#bsht=CgRmYnNtEgIIBA
    [3] https://kagi.com/search?q=Web+Development+with+Clojure%2C+Third+Edition+australia+buy+online
    [4] https://www.thoughtworks.com/

      a year later
      Merged 1 post from Kagi vs Google, online shopping.

        I don't use widgets much, but what would be really useful to me would be a filter where I could get only small businesses online. Other shopping search engines are swarmed with the big retailers --- Amazon, Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc. --- so it is hard to find small online retailers who might have the item.

        I would say have a filter on size of business - $1B annual revenue and up versus below $1B. I don't mean a small business advertising on Amazon, because that retailer is still under the control of the big platform owner, who can copy them, deprioritize them or just take their access away. Give me a link to the small business' home page, Shopify page, etc.

        Thoughts anyone?

          20 days later

          A thing Kagi could do is rely on third party price comparison websites (and have translators pick the top picks for the country). Some have an API (https://pricerunner.com for example for, they operate in the Nordic companies and others). I don't think this is a perfect solution, as many of the ones I know only show shops that have paid, but it could be a start

          Grooty Good point. It is hard to find the small businesses but easy to find the big ones. Honestly, when I look at shopping results in Google I get a long list of Amazon, Walmart and Target choices but very little else. What if we just eliminate the biggest companies and focus on all the rest?

          That is one possible solution. The second idea I have is if Kagi or another search engine can partner with RevLocal or similar, who provide services to thousands of small businesses. If you (a small business) are already working with RevLocal, your products will show up in the small business search.

            6 days later

            We'd love to consume an API that solves this problem for Kagi users.

            Few challanges:

            • Should be worldwide
            • Should work in different languages

            Looking for ideas!

              4 months later

              I don't use widgets much, but what would be really useful to me would be a filter where I could get only small businesses online

              This seems solvable with a filter/lense that ignores the top 10/100/1000/10k websites from the results. I saw this suggestion in another thread and think it's brilliant and would provide a lot of organic utility to search results. Including ignoring the most popular shopping sites as you narrow down what you are trying to find.

                Vlad

                Was this widget deprecated? Either it's not what I was expecting, or I'm not activating it 🤔

                • Vlad replied to this.

                    I would love to see a simple product search widget or lense. I'm trying to avoid being so dependent on Amazon, but I tend to find myself search and buy from Amazon anyway because it is so much easier to search for products.

                      2 months later

                      One of the main things that I still go back to Google for is Google Shopping. It's extremely useful for price comparison and also finding items in retail stores near me. I think it would be great if Kagi had a full shopping mode that could compare prices from different retailers and when possible show availability of items in local big box stores. This is just another way for Google to harvest my data and to take this away from them, and to have the lack of bias Kagi provides would be excellent.

                      I think it would be great to be able to compare prices on items without bias. To find where something is in stock without being tracked or being pushed in a certain direction because a particular retailer is giving Google a kickback.

                      I also want to add, perhaps Kagi could just proxy Google Shopping if Google offers an API?
                      This way it's less work to stand up but still provides privacy and perhaps some way to reduce or eliminate bias related to advertising.

                      Merged 4 posts from Shopping mode, like a Kagi version of Google Shopping.

                        mackid1993 The same basic problem needs to be solved first, so merged it here

                            4 months later

                            I know it might be difficult to make it ethical and transparent, but I do like Google shopping as one place to search for and compare products and prices, and Kagi just does not offer that type of search yet.
                            I wanna be able to see where products I search for are available and compare prices with a quick glance. I also like suggestions of similar things that might be fulfill the same purpose better or cheaper.
                            While normal Kagi search also can help find some stuff I have to rummage a lot of unrelated results and don't see prices fast. It is one reason for me why I have to switch back to google temporarily right now.

                            Users have a dedicated more ethical search for products that not just highlight the companies products which pays most for advertising.
                            The user can save time by not having to look through unrelated results about the product they are searching for without an option to buy, as they would with just a regular Kagi search.
                            Easy price comparison is offered to the user. Being able to quickly compare the highlighted prices of the searched product offered by different shops.
                            The user can more easily find where a product is available for purchase, possibly in the same country or area.
                            Similar products which fulfill the same function better or cheaper are suggested in a clearly defined and dedicated area which doesn't interfere and clutter the main result searched for.
                            This will plug a gap in offering that Kagi does not offer right now, but competitor Google does.

                            Thanks for the suggestion, @Intet! I'll merge your post with the existing thread on this topic.