Suggestion for keeping kagi translate afloat

Kingslayer

I suggest using ads in the app and online. Not pop-up ads, not in the way, and not personalized. Perhaps right in this area - where there is some free space not used by anything.

I don't see this affecting the user experience, as it is blank space. However, if a screen is smaller, the ui should have priority over the ad so it doesn't harm the user experience

nichu42

Hmm... Kagi's whole business model is about being ad-free.

MustafaD

I hate ads. That's why I use Kagi.

JosephT

This is what ads are good for but thats not kagi.

menubar

^This ^is ^not ^an ^argument ^against ^static ^{advertisements}:

If an ad-free service is willing to introduce advertisements of any kind, regardless of what payment tier they are served to, then said service is no longer ad-free.

This is also a slippery slope to dropping standards for even the highest-paying users, as has been seen countless times, most notably in "ad-free" streaming services, of which there are now none left, as even those that don't play mid-roll ads plaster advertisements across their service for even premium members.

Also, Kagi's whole mission is about being responsive to users, tracking-free, advertisement-free, and censorship-free*

*this has previously been upheld in Kagi's refusal to censor search result categories some may be unable to handle, whether or not for good reasons

laiz

There are better ways to make Kagi Translate sustainable. Adding advertisements is nowhere near the list of solutions.

You can read more about Kagi's stance on ads here: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/why-kagi/noads.html

JR

This would be step one towards enshitification. We pay for this service. The moment you put ads into a service, you have a conflict of interests between your end-users and advertisers.

Hanbyeol

I agree with others that putting ads in the app is a bad idea. It doesn't matter whether the ads are personalized or not.

Even Google Translate has no ads... I know Google might keep user data for a long time instead of showing ads. But I believe putting ads in the app will look worse when compared to other apps.

carl

Kagi competitor DeepL is currently preparing to make their stock public at a $5 billion dollar valuation. They have already raised $300 million in private investments. They charge $10 per month from their users. So I think that's how Kagi can keep Translate "afloat", considering that it's just as good as DeepL.